After being interrogated by two elders who refused to believe I was not having a sexual relationship with anyone I never returned and because I would not attend a judicial hearing after the aggressive way they were with me. I have been disfellowshipped by them as they do not believe I am not doing in reality the things they "wet dream" about. Pass the nutcrackers I know just what to do with them!! ;-) x
Disassociated Lady 2
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According to one JW there can only be 1 of 3 reasons why you left.
by Bonsai ini asked an old jw friend of mine why so many baptized individuals leave the jw religion.
"did it ever occur to you, old friend, that maybe they know something that you don't know and have valid reasons for leaving?
", i asked.. his response set me back for an answer.
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According to one JW there can only be 1 of 3 reasons why you left.
by Bonsai ini asked an old jw friend of mine why so many baptized individuals leave the jw religion.
"did it ever occur to you, old friend, that maybe they know something that you don't know and have valid reasons for leaving?
", i asked.. his response set me back for an answer.
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Disassociated Lady 2
Why is it always about sex with those people...there is so much more to life!! >:-( x
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need input: My older son has an interesting theory as to why my wife has her head in a watchtower 90% of the time
by goingthruthemotions ini am still having issues with my still in wife.
my two son's and i don't want anything to do with the cult.
our marriage is a battle ground all the time.
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Disassociated Lady 2
Unfortunately she will not see you as a her husband but the "Devil" who is using you to destroy her true faith. If she is not ready to listen there is no point in trying. Let go and she will see these things more for herself (hopefully) in time. :-) x -
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My Conclusion After Research
by Disassociated Lady 2 insince leaving the jws i have looked into many beliefs and have come to this conclusion.. paganism has a high regard for women, as they worship goddesses and respect the female for the ability to give birth to new life.
christianity puts females in second place to males and blames women for male temptations which goes back to eve eating the fruit and tempting adam with it.
they also created a devil with the appearance of the pagan god pan and built churches on pagan worship sites so that people would still go there to worship, but within a christian building.. i have come to the conclusion that paganism versus christianity is about a battle of the sexes.. the fear of demonic forces is taught by religions to deter you from straying.
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Disassociated Lady 2
In reply to "half-banana" saying "why worship anything at all" humans seem to have an inbuilt need to worship, if not Gods they put other people on pedestals until they come tumbling down.
None of us need a religion or organization to tell us how to worship, we know right from wrong and are all different and see things in our unique way. The important relationship is just between the almighty spirit (whatever you wish to call it) and yourself.
No one has the right to interfere in that. As long as you are not harming anyone else and living a good life, that's all you need. :-) x
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JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES & THE MANDELA EFFECT
by jwdoctrine inclick here for full article.
click here for full article.
the mandela effect seems to be at the root of all problems the watchtower publishing corporation seems to be running into recently .if you don’t know what the mandela effect is then you have been hiding under a stone for the past 2 years .it is the hottest topic in conspiracy theories at the moments with thousands of videos dedicated to this phenomenon on youtube alone.
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Disassociated Lady 2
I have listened to one half of the video....amazing information!!! So much in everyday life could be blamed on the Mandela Effect...........Hehe! :-D x
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The insanity continues
by FedUpJW inas if anymore proof were needed that what used to be the religion i was baptized into has ceased to exist i was asked this insane question, when i mentioned to a jdub that someone i knew was celebrating their 50th wedding anniversary.
are they witnesses?".
i didn't used to really think about that insane question in the past, but now that i have woke up to ttatt it is glaringly obvious that they think there can be no chance of actually knowing and getting along with anyone outside their tiny circle of conditional friends.
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Disassociated Lady 2
My sister has been an inactive JW for years, ran a nightclub and has never been investigated for it. she goes clubbing with other JWs and there are photos of them all drunk on social media. Some seem to get away with so much while others are scrutinized! :-/ x
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Assembly day - La Féria, tx stats
by StarTrekAngel injust quick post for stats.
1300 attendance .
4 baptism, 3 adults and 12 year old son of an elder from my cong.
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Disassociated Lady 2
If there was 1300 in attendance then the contributions were a $1 each if all paid! :-) x
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My Conclusion After Research
by Disassociated Lady 2 insince leaving the jws i have looked into many beliefs and have come to this conclusion.. paganism has a high regard for women, as they worship goddesses and respect the female for the ability to give birth to new life.
christianity puts females in second place to males and blames women for male temptations which goes back to eve eating the fruit and tempting adam with it.
they also created a devil with the appearance of the pagan god pan and built churches on pagan worship sites so that people would still go there to worship, but within a christian building.. i have come to the conclusion that paganism versus christianity is about a battle of the sexes.. the fear of demonic forces is taught by religions to deter you from straying.
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Disassociated Lady 2
Since leaving the JWs I have looked into many beliefs and have come to this conclusion.
Paganism has a high regard for women, as they worship Goddesses and respect the female for the ability to give birth to new life.
Christianity puts females in second place to males and blames women for male temptations which goes back to Eve eating the fruit and tempting Adam with it. They also created a Devil with the appearance of the Pagan God Pan and built churches on Pagan worship sites so that people would still go there to worship, but within a Christian building.
I have come to the conclusion that Paganism versus Christianity is about a battle of the sexes.
The fear of demonic forces is taught by religions to deter you from straying. The horror films that are presented about the occult are also designed to instill fear into its viewers. The reason for this is when you do find out the truth of what religion is about, which is mainly power over people, you no longer need it and these organizations lose their power over you.
In all my research and attending different churches and organizations, the only demonic forces (if you can call them that) I have experienced are from people themselves and you will meet some in all organizations and belief systems.
The word FEAR can stand for False Expectation Appearing Real. Your mind shapes your life much more than you realize, if you think you are cursed then you may as well be!!
I would be very interested to hear what you have learnt since leaving the JWs :-) x
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Can a full healing from cult ever be accomplished
by Chook incan all indoctrination leave a person , or does it linger in background till death..
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Disassociated Lady 2
Your upbringing does stay with you especially when discussing it with others. Its all we ever knew and lived our lives along with it. I was not a little "robot" like other children my sister and I misbehaved at meetings as we were so bored and I could not connect with a God I could not see and who I felt had not cared for me and protected me as a child.
I felt it was the right decision to leave it and my conscience was not affected when I looked into other religions and researched the "life after death" philosophy.
I did not raise my children in any religion, I suggested they keep an open mind and make their own minds up as to what they wanted to believe. Its a little like forcing your children to eat vegetables, it could put them off for life!
It was not until lately when I have read about the effects of being raised in a cult, just how much it has unconsciously had influence on my thought patterns and views of people and relationships. I am shocked as I had spent most of my life thinking that I was free of it when in fact I am not.
Of course being shunned by your JW family does have an effect, as seeing other close families is a constant reminder of the life you could have had and all that was taken from you. Very sad.
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Undecided
by Disassociated Lady 2 ini have recently been disfellowshipped (after being reinstated in march).
i saw a group of jws gathered in the town car park yesterday.
they seemed startled when they recognised my car and talked amongst themselves giving one another a satisfied grin!
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In answer to Finkelstein:
" If so I've never heard of someone getting Dfed simply because of them living under the same roof of a person who is DFed ?
Why cant you find a job and move out on your own then ? "
The Witch/Wisewomen has never been a JW, she had some bad experiences with the Pentecostals which put her off all religion. What she does has nothing to do with religion, its just working with the spirits of the land to help people. She is well known in the media, been on TV and in newspapers etc and I worked alongside her.
The JWs refuse to believe I was no longer taking part in that kind of work which they called "spiritism" when it is something the lady and I have not practised. they did not give me a chance to explain, they had found what they call evidence of my past involvement from the intermet and that was enough for them without giving me a chance to explain.
I don't think the fact I shouted and argued with the sex mad elder who was grilling me about my sexual activities (of which there have been none). Since then they have wanted me out because I stood up to them and refuse to "hang my head in shame" (my mothers advice to me)
I am on a low wage and cannot afford to get a place of my own. I would be able to move into a rented room but these days I wouldn't want to stay in the home of a stranger. None of my family have offered help and neither did the JWs. I also do not agree that living where I am affected my being a JW either.
Thinking about it though, I do not believe those men are appointed by God and I will not sign one of those blood documents giving the elders access to my medical records and permission to turn off my life support machine either. No point in being in it if you don't agree with those things. x